My 9 month old puppy is pulling grass out by it’s roots – help needed!

  • My 9 month old puppy is pulling grass out by it’s roots – help needed!

    Posted by Cecilia on May 29, 2021 at 3:42 AM

    Hello everyone!

    I have a 9-month-old Golden Retriever and he has this weird behavior I have no idea how to deal with (or other trainers that I have asked). When he gets a bit excited/worked up (sometimes it’s also “out of nowhere”) he starts pulling grass out by its roots. Sometimes eating it but mostly just pulling it. It makes it impossible to train where there are grass fields or even try to play with a toy.

    Example: I will be throwing a ball, he grabs it, runs away, and start pulling grass instead of playing with the ball. Then when I approach he grabs the ball and runs away.

    I have tried to have different toys and alternate like in Roberts fetch video but he’s not interested in another toy, I have tried correcting which makes his grass pulling more intense and I have tried to redirect but no difference. I’m now trying to only play with a ball where there is no grass and he can’t pull but I would like to address the issue and not only avoid it.

    Have anyone else had this issue? Or any tips?

    Thank you for taking your time to read about my rambling!

    Ed replied 2 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Riggan

    Moderator
    May 30, 2021 at 6:28 AM

    Cecilia, I had a similar problem with my last golden. One of the things I noticed with him is that it typically was a frustration / feeling overwhelmed behavior. He was extremely mouthy as an adolescent, but by 9-months he knew that was frowned upon. He really wanted to be a “good” boy, but when he started feeling pressure during training (asking for a bit more than he could easily do), his mouthy “alligator” side would come out. He would then redirect that energy into pulling the grass. As Walid said, this can then become a self-reinforcing behavior. So how to address it?

    1) Take a look at your training. Are you asking too much too fast? Are there more corrections than rewards? These can increase the pressure that the dog feels. In general, I like to keep about an 80 / 20 ratio between rewards and corrections (90 / 10 is even better!). If I have to correct the dog more than that, I am probably moving too fast. A little pressure during training is a good thing – it keeps the dog moving forward – but too much is not.

    2) Movement is your friend! It lets the dog expend that built-up energy that he doesn’t know how to appropriately control yet. I wouldn’t use fetch for this, since it disconnects the dog from you. Instead, I might try a game of “Catch me if you can!” with the dog chasing YOU rather than the other way around. Run away from him, call him if necessary, and then give a huge reward / praise when he catches you. Then turn and run again. Make it a great, exciting game that has great pay-back for him. This will also make recall training go much easier. I also love to use tug. For my golden, this gave him a different and appropriate route to redirect that “alligator” behavior. (I also love tug as a great way to reinforce basic obedience commands in a fun, game oriented approach. And by its very nature, tug is an interactive game that the dog can only play with your participation.) Robert has some good videos on teaching tug. This was probably my most useful tool with my golden. I would watch him carefully, and if I saw him starting to get tense or frantic, I would give him a simple command that I knew he could obey, such as Sit. Then I would immediately pull out his tug toy and start a rousing game of tug as his reward. Then I would start throwing in some sits and downs to gradually get him back to focusing on obedience in a fun way. Once I could see that the frantic energy that had been building up during training was dissipating, I’d put the tug toy away and return to our training for a bit. Tug for him was far more exciting than grass pulling. As he matured, the grass pulling subsided as he became better able to cope with frustration and pressure.

    3) As Walid said, work with him on a long line and train a solid “Leave It” command. (“Leave it” is another command I use during tug games. I first train “Leave it” in a more traditional static setting until I know the dog understands the meaning. I then play tug for a bit before telling the dog to “Sit.” I hold the tug in front of the dog and tell him “Leave It.” At first this might just be for a couple of seconds, and then I tell him “Get It!” in an excited tone of voice. I start increasing the difficulty both in length and by teasing him with the toy before letting him “Get It!” All of my dogs have adored this game, and they develop so much self control. I don’t do any harsh corrections for breaking – I keep it more light-hearted as a game rather than strict obedience – but I don’t let the dog have the tug until he is able to control himself.)

    Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

    • Cecilia

      Member
      June 1, 2021 at 2:56 AM

      Hello!

      Wow thank you so much for sharing your experience and tips! Really appreciate it! And I will update in the future how it’s going.

      He’s already showing some improvement and I have been doing the play you suggested as well. We also managed to fix our grass in our own garden (was a mud bath before) so now he has access to grass more frequently, and if he’s trying to rip some grass out we correct. But think he’s getting less obsessed with grass now in general since he has more access to it, we can even throw the ball on the grass now without him ripping it out until he gets too excited then he can’t help it haha.

  • Ryan

    Member
    July 8, 2021 at 7:22 PM

    My 10 week old husky was doing something very similar when I first brought him home. There was no grass where he was bred, and he went nuts around grass for the first few days. He still loves grass 3 weeks later, but has since stopped the psycho grass eating binges. Riggan’s post is amazing and so much good advice there. After the first few days my pup has gone into insane ripping grass mode maybe 3-4 times, and they very possibly were induced by frustration, being overwhelmed, tired ect. If the problem was very bad, which I’m lucky it is not, I would be very in tune with the emotional state of your dog when he gets into this mode, or identify as Riggan said, if you are the one inducing this in some way. There are two things I’ve done when my pup does this now. I either remove him instantly from the setting so the behavior cannot be rehearsed. This is also virtually the only behavior I have corrected so far. Once he went nuts with grass, and I would use positive punishment and mark the behavior with a verbal correction, and grab him by the scruff to the point of discomfort every time he ate the grass, and he eventually stopped but he wasn’t thrilled about it. Maybe just getting him out of there is better. I’m not a pro at this, but I think my pup is totally fine with physical corrections at that level, be sure you pup isn’t sensitive here first.

  • Ed

    Member
    July 9, 2021 at 9:55 AM

    Both of mine still eat grass. They are 6 and 4 years old. LOL. I think that is kind of normal. Overtime they became more discerning and they go mostly for the tall grass, as opposed to the lawn. They also stopped ripping the grass off the lawn and when they do go for it they are more the grazing type now.

    When my Rottie was a young pup I think she got a kick of how powerful she was that she could rip things apart — but that might be anthropomorphizing.

    I don’t remember if we did anything special to stop the ripping… probably just removed the opportunity for her to do that.

    Sorry if that does not help much, but the ripping of the grass will become a found memory one day 🙂

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